Sanatan Dharma

65 thoughts on “Gujarati swaminarayan sanstha BAPS (Bochasanwasi Akshar Purushottam Sanstha) goons hiding under orange saffron.”

  1. Please believe whatever you want but why are you spreading the information that has no proof. You haven’t included any proof or references in your article. And for your comments about women cannot enter in Mandirs or perform any rituals, is totally wrong. the picture that you uploaded of British PM Thressa May performing a ritual is called “Nilakanth Varni Abhishek” and everyone regardless of gender can perform that in any swaminarayan temple.

    and if some people in the “Sampraday” misbehaves or forcefully asks people to donate money that does not mean the whole “Sampraday” is bad.

    Take the good things from each and everyone, improve yourself and move on.

    1. Jay Shri Krishna.

      Article published in news paper is wrong?? Your baps website lists Krishna, Ram and Shiv as dev, is that wrong website as well? Read your own shiksapatri slok 108, Shri Krishna Parbhram Purshottam said by your own swaminarayan. Or Is your shiksapatri wrong as well?

      Question your BAPS first, before questioning anything in the article. ANd I know you’re not going to question, cause you don’t have bone to stand for truth.

  2. 1. Well, we do believe Swaminarayan is above all Gods. BUT that does not mean we undermine other avtars. We offer them the same respect and devotion! Just how you believe Shri Krishna to be the supreme, we believe Swaminarayan. We do not call Shri Krishna Fake. That is the first and foremost difference between us. We do not force anyone to believe that Swaminarayan is the supreme, they believe whatever they wish. Temples give them a platform to perform devotion, attain peace and to help community and society and come together as family, friends and understand the ideology of Hinduism. We celebrate every utsav whether it is Ganesh chaturthi, Hanuman Jayanti, Ram Jayanti, Shivratri, etc.

    To further add about Swaminarayan being Supreme and worshipping sadhus, it has been mentioned in upanishads and BHAGVAD GITA about the Akshar Brahma and Para Brahma. (someone mentioned where it has been said in past- well i will tell you where)-

    explains importance and greatness of AKSHAR;
    -Munduk Upanishad: 1/2/13, 1/1/5
    – Kath Upanishad: 2/15, 2/16, 3/2,

    – explains that there is nothing above PURUSHOTTAM
    Munduk Upanishad 1/2/11, 2/1/10
    Kath Upanishad 3/11

    Bruhada Upanishad 3/8/9, 3/8/10, 3/7/3, – the Q&A between Rishi Yagnavalkya and Gargi explaining what is the greatest. In here, Rishi Yagnavalkya explains that There is nothing above Purushottam and Akshar is the next best to him.

    Gita:

    8/11 – explains the abode about which scholars study about, bhramcharis leave material happiness for. That is where Akshar resides
    15/16 – explains the eternal entity that is Akshar which is beyond kshar.
    15/17-18 – Uttam purush is different and is called above all of us. Above Akshar and in Veda and world; known as Purushottam

    It has also been mentioned in Bhramasotra. But I assume you get my point.
    Bhagwan Swaminarayan mentions him being Purushottam and Akshar is the choicest devotee in Vachanamrut. You might say BAPS altered them, fine, read Vadtal, Sokhda or whichever. You will see him mentioning him as Purushottam.

    Now, a question to you is. If Krishna= Purushottam, who is Akshar? And what are the forms of akshar?

    It is said the 4 forms of Akshar: (Divine abode itself ) Akshardham, Sevak in there, Chiddakash (present everywhere) and Pragat – Present on Earth. How would you relate to Krishna and ….(Akshar)?

    2. How do you know they took the passports of Indian workers who went there? You been there? You know people who work there? And just FYI, when Taj Mahal was built the hands of workers were chopped off. BUT when Delhi “mansion” was built, the head met all 7000 workers at the age of 85 and thanked them for their immense hard work.

    3. Mor-phinsh is just the way we see Shri Krishna as. You think he wore all jewellery in his everyday life? No, he would obviously act as human, yet appear to be divine.

    4. Baseless argument based on a newspaper. You believe everything to be true in newspaper? I would highly doubt you do…being an engineer, right?

    5. Don’t understand your point? Do you see any sadhus next to Theresa May? Any woman can perform abhisek to Nilkanth Varni. Please get your facts right. You would not know, because you do not enter inside the mandir.

    6. Again, baseless argument based on one person who was at his/her emotional peak. You say many things against BAPS/Swaminarayan, same to same bruh.

    I don’t intend to convert you to Swaminarayan or prove Ram/Krishna are not Gods or they are any smaller than Swaminarayan. You seem to have a very one sided knowledge of the whole idea and morals. Perhaps, you have been affected by someone from Swaminarayan/BAPS said to you. None of us are perfect in this human birth, in fact it is our aim to be perfect on the path to liberation and attain moksha. In doing so, we come across many swabhavs and obstacles that challenge ourselves spiritually. You might hate Swaminarayan, but it does not help you preach against something that has been approved by Kashi Vishva Mahaparishad, pandits, and millions of followers.

    Not going to ask you to close this site either. It is up to you, you might say I am brainwashed. But I say you are brainwashed against us. You are not ready to be rational and weigh the aim, motto and the charitable activities we do. If we do something right, you automatically assume the worst instead of appreciating the fact that they stand for Hinduism, they stand for India, and any local community their temples are built in.

    1. जय श्री कृष्णा

      People like you will use or change any book for your own use. There was a time where I would reply to each and every argument, but now I realize that it is more fun to see how envious you people are!!.

      It is marvelous that your baps bava de-crypted vedic knowledge of shri bhagwad Geeta; and oh all the other scholars like Swami Vivekanda, Mahatma Gandhi, Srila Prabhupad, Narayan Krishnamurti, Vinoda Bhave missed out. Marvelous to see how entire hindu religion missed this out for thousands of years, and till 18th century your whatever it is called, he figured it out…. Superb!! Marvelous.

      I know you never read Geeta in your life or hold it in your hand; cause it is against the law of BAPS to read Geeta. But let me educate you a little bit, afterall that is the main reason why I created this blog.

      Who is Akshar?
      त्वमक्षरं परमं वेदितव्यं
      त्वमस्य विश्वस्य परं निधानम् |
      त्वमव्यय: शाश्वतधर्मगोप्ता
      सनातनस्त्वं पुरुषो मतो मे || ch 11, 18||

      After seeing Virat Swarropp Arjun says, ” I recognize you as the supreme imperishable being, the ultimate truth to be known by the scriptures. You are the support of all creation; you are the eternal protector of sanātan dharma (the eternal religion); and you are the everlasting Supreme Divine Personality.”

      Who is purshottam? Oh yet again let me remind you about a shiksapatri that is written by your swaminarayan.
      स श्रीकृष्णः परंब्रह्म भगवान् पुरुषोत्तमः ।
      उपास्य इष्टदेवो नः सर्वाविर्भावकारणम् ॥ 108॥
      Oh wait a minute, you don’t read full shiksapatri.. You read condensed shiksapatri given by your bava.. pity on you..

      So

      जय श्री कृष्णा

      1. Sorry but Virat is a perishable being. Virat is a minute form of God who creates, sustains and destroys the universe. There are an infinite number of Virat. Calling God as Virat is a major sin!

      2. Lol I’m very curious to know where did you learn this? Geeta chapter 11 is all about virat swaroop. So is it sin yo read about Krishna’s Virat Swaroop?

  3. Are you mental or what? How could u say lies about Bhagwan Swaminarayan’s divinity when he standing in front of you. You need evidence before making a scene about BAPS. People like you should definitely never get a spot in Akshardham. Bapa such a humble human… how could you say such mal things about him.

    1. Please be kind and tell me what lies!! Look at my about page, I’m quoting from your shiksapatri. Is your shiksapatri a lie??

      1. Read the whole sikshapatri and other books.
        You are stupid.
        Like Rahul Gandhi as you had mentioned earlier.
        You are pappu.
        Now asking for money.
        Big scam.

        Don’t fall into this idiot guy.

      2. lol. There are people who have utmost faith in me. And nothing brings me happiness than seeing your swaminarayan sampraday down the drain.

      3. જય શ્રી કૃષ્ણ

        This is funny. Asking for money.. haha.. keep it up.

    2. Tell me did you not go around asking for money where as your mahant is flying in private jets. Educate us!!

  4. Sanatan Dharm is very simple and very deep.

    Brahma-Ved (Universe/Glaxies creation & its knowlege, think it as positive ION of battery)

    Hari-Narayan (Ram, Krishna, etc, think it as material-cells of battery)

    Shiv-OM (Energy of Universe, Ganesh, Hanuman, Sun, Moon, Himalaya, Ganges, Meditation, Male-Female energy, think it as negative ION of battery)

    Krishna’s Virat-Roop showed all above as ONE single entity.

    Ghanshyam Pandey (Swaminarayan) made 7-TEMPLES in his life time and those 7-TEMPLE were of Krishna.
    Temple-1 : Krishna with Rukhmani
    Temple-2 : Krishna with LAXMI
    Temple-3 : Krishna with Hanuman Monkey Sena,
    Temple-4 : Krishna-dualform of Nar-Narayan
    etc

    Ghanshyam Pandey (Swaminarayan) wrote 2-books (Shikshapatri and VachnaAmrut) .

    BRITISH LIBARARY ORIGINAL SHIKSHAPATRI: Thanks Britisher who SAVED it AS-IS else swami’s manipulation is prime business
    http://www.shikshapatri.org.uk/~imagedb/hms/mss_browse.php?expand=638,639&act=chunit&unit=108

    Shree Kutch Satsang Swaminarayan Temple London
    http://sksst.org/shikshapatri?shlok=108

    VADTAL
    http://www.swaminarayanvadtalgadi.org/literature/satshastra/shikshapatri-index/shikshapatri-shlok-108/

    BAPS manipulated Shikshapatri, MISSING VERSE-108,
    http://www.swaminarayan.org/scriptures/shikshapatri/index.htm

    BAPS Swami’s are NO less than Ravan/Kansh/Hirankashyap who doesn’t understand Narayan.

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